W5 survey of used car market finds deceitful dealers, rebuilt wrecks

Annual survey of used car market finds deceitful dealers, rebuilt wrecks

Stephanie Kampf, W5 Producer

Published Friday, April 11, two thousand fourteen Three:25PM EDT

Last Updated Wednesday, November Four, two thousand fifteen 1:38PM EST

UPDATE, Oct 22. 2015: Another group featured in W5’s investigation has been convicted of curbsiding – selling cars illegally through an unlicensed dealership – by OMVIC, Ontario’s car sales regulator.

In W5’s hidden camera investigation with the APA – a car that was introduced in good condition and as a private sale was actually linked to Monterey Auto Repair – the holder of which had previously been convicted and fined for curbsiding. W5 also discovered the car had been in fact a total write off after a previous accident.

In addition to the conviction for curbsiding, the group was also convicted of engaging in an unfair business practice for selling cars that had been written off and rebuilt after accidents without disclosing the cars’ true history to purchasers. The total fine amount for the convicted parties was $54,500 plus a 25% victim fine surcharge – to be paid within twelve months.

It’s an annual investigation: W5 teams up with the Automobile Protection Association (APA) to examine the Canadian car industry.

This year, APA’s secret shoppers and their pro mechanic looked for a decent used car in an ad and then visited the dealership or private seller to listen to the sales pitch and inspect the cars up close.

The APA surveyed twenty one car sellers in the Toronto area and turned up everything from dealers who added extra fees to their advertised price, to dealers who misrepresented a car’s accident history and even dealers who misrepresented themselves, as private individuals selling their private vehicles.

However, as W5 observed through our hidden cameras, we discovered a serious safety problem: rebuilt cars that the APA says were so poorly repaired after an accident that they should have never passed a government approved structural inspection.

“I don’t think there was one that we shopped that was decently rebuilt,” said APA President George Iny.

In Ontario, if a car is rebuilt after an accident, it must pass structural and mechanical safety inspections in order to ensure the car has been rebuilt decently and is safe to go back on the road.

However, some of the cars the APA found for sale raise questions about the oversight of that inspection system – particularly structural inspections at government licensed Motor Vehicle Inspection Stations.

“Some of the cars we witnessed never should have been put back on the road,” said Iny.

One car in particular stood out — a two thousand twelve Mazda three for sale at Toronto Used Cars. The salesman admitted that the car had been in an accident but claimed it was only cosmetic harm and that there was “no framework damage”. He even showcased the shoppers a photo displaying only minor harm to the car.

There was just one problem: the photo he displayed as his proof was a photo of a entirely different car. W5 tracked down the car’s real accident photos and the harm was much worse than the salesman claimed. The car did indeed have framework harm and what’s worse, the repairs were substandard according to the APA. Iny told W5 the car had been “repaired by a butcher and (studied) by somebody with bad eyesight”.

Among some of the problems the APA found:

  • the car was improperly welded (they had used torch welding to patch up ultra-high strength steel);
  • the bumper was improperly affixed (welded instead of bolted); and
  • the car was poorly aligned.

“When (our mechanic) drove it, it pulled hard to the left, we suspect it’s still leaned,” said Iny.

The Ministry of Transportation told W5 that deficiencies like this should have been spotted in a structural inspection. However, when W5 investigated, we found that the car had indeed passed a structural inspection and been given a certificate despite the defects the APA found.

Mechanic Nick Lagoudis also investigated the car and found a litany of other problems, that according to the MTO, most of which wouldn’t be addressed in the structural inspection: the dashboard was coming liberate, each wheel was missing a lug nut and not fully secured to the car, the ground wiring had been installed improperly and was a potential fire hazard, the oil pan had been badly dented in the influence.

With the car up on a elevate Lagoudis found that the power steering hoses were improperly secured; affixed with a plastic tie wrap rather than a metal bracket. Lagoudis noted that if that plastic tie wrap holding the power steering hoses broke, it could cause further problems. “You (would) have no steering to drive the car”. In fact, the APA says that power steering could fail even sooner, within weeks, due to an active power steering fluid leak.

Iny added that if you got into accident while driving the car “you would have the dash in your teeth because it wouldn’t stay affixed to the car, on the day we eyed it.”

The Mazda would also have to go through a 2nd, mechanical safety inspection, before being sold, but the car had not yet had that inspection. However, according to the MTO, many of these issues would not be addressed in that subsequent inspection.

The shop that signed off on the car’s structural inspection certificate was Nagu Auto Collision Centre. In an email to W5, the company indicated that it was “not involved with any repairs to this vehicle” and that another facility had ended the wheel alignment. Nagu also stated that the car passed inspection because “it was repaired decently to its measurements” and that the company has “been audited regularly by the Ministry and Transportation for which we have met our compliance requirements.”

Primarily, Ontario Transportation Minister Glen Murray’s office declined W5’s request for an interview about the APA’s findings but when W5 confronted him at the Ontario legislature he readily acknowledged that the sale of unsafe rebuilt cars is a problem.

“This is a vehicle in which people get into everyday and they should be able to rely on the standards of government and the ethics of companies,” he said.

In March 2014, the government introduced fresh legislation that Murray believes will remedy many of the issues raised by the APA survey. According to Murray, the fresh bill will “substantively improve enforcement and inspections” and that they will “be engaging a third party with a very specific contact for more rigorous enforcement”.

As far as Iny is worried switches to the industry can’t come soon enough. “When you’re buying a rebuilt vehicle, absolutely the current situation in Ontario, you cannot trust the rebuild standard or the government oversight.”

This year, the APA’s survey of used car sales reached a fresh low: out of the twenty one used car sellers they surveyed – only two passed, the other nineteen failed their survey.

“The numerical result is dismal,” said APA President George Iny.

By the numbers, this is the worst result the APA has seen in the time they have been testing used car sales. However, the vehicles at many dealerships appeared to be in better overall condition this year than in previous investigations in the Toronto market. And, used car dealers as a group, suggested more professional vehicle presentations than in other years.

So why did so many fail?

Mostly because of extra fees on top of their advertised price. Ontario requires dealerships to have all-in pricing and with the exception of taxes and licensing, it’s usually illegal to charge more than the advertised price. Despite those industry regulations, the APA found fees that “are out of control,” said Iny.

Some dealers asked for a so-called “administration fee” on top of their advertised price. Others charged inflated prices for safety and emissions testing.

“Some dealers include it in their price. But a very large percentage of them mark it up and they mark it up by an exaggerated amount,” said Iny.

He noted that in some cases, dealers are permitted to charge for safety and emissions tests, however, he determined those tests should only cost about $80,

“If you’re going to say that you’re charging for an e-test, it’s $30. That’s what you charge. If you’re charging for a safety, it’s $50. That’s what you should be charging.”

The APA found dealers charging up to $695 for safety and emissions testing, albeit some said they would let the shoppers take it elsewhere for that testing.

“APA’s position is that all-in is all-in,” said Iny. His advice to consumers is to raise the issue and attempt to negotiate a larger discount or liquidate the fees. He also advises that if you are certain the charge is prohibited, you should report the incident to the Ontario Motor Vehicle Industry Council (OMVIC) along with a copy of the dealer’s advertising and any other paperwork you may have obtained regarding the price.

So, who are the dealerships who passed this year’s survey? There were only two and they were both used car dealers: Auto Select and Good Fellow’s.

The APA found that Auto Select had a good selection of well-priced cars — and those prices were all-in. During the APA’s visit, the salesman had no problem letting the shoppers take the car for a pre-purchase inspection.

At Good Fellow’s, the APA reported that the salesperson was knowledgeable about his cars and gave good advice on which cars would be the best value for the shoppers. He also had the accident history on palm to tell shoppers about the condition of the cars and pointed out which cars were former rentals. Good Fellow’s also permitted the shoppers to take the car for a pre-purchase inspection, providing they left a deposit, and their advertised price was all-in including safety and emissions testing.

The APA’s George Iny noted that recently Good Fellow’s was disciplined by OMVIC, over disclosure and marketing issues, and was required to send its sales staff for training. “Perhaps that practice contributed to this year’s good result,” said Iny.

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